pthomas215 1,251 posts msg #129167 - Ignore pthomas215 | 
6/15/2016 10:29:16 PM
  It appears that TVIX will respond to volatility due to the big brexit meeting next week.  Any thoughts on how to play England possibly leaving the current European union?
 
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johnpaulca 12,036 posts msg #129170 - Ignore johnpaulca modified | 
6/15/2016 11:39:18 PM
  Brexit....This is the kind of sentiment will leads to extreme risk-aversion. Global capital might soon be pouring into the US, pushing bond prices up and interest rates down.....how do you say...negative interest rate.
 
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pthomas215 1,251 posts msg #129171 - Ignore pthomas215 | 
6/16/2016 12:20:23 AM
  I agree. I think it's going to be bigger than people think.  by next week there may be a rush to bonds and cash due to instability. I would think TVIX will pull back a bit until next Wednesday, and then explode.
 
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graftonian 1,089 posts msg #129174 - Ignore graftonian | 
6/16/2016 7:38:27 AM
  I agree, the overall effect will be negative for equities.
 
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Kevin_in_GA 4,599 posts msg #129194 - Ignore Kevin_in_GA | 
6/16/2016 5:49:07 PM
  Volatility ETF pair trades
 
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pthomas215 1,251 posts msg #129200 - Ignore pthomas215 | 
6/17/2016 1:07:53 AM
  Kevin, do you mind explaining your strategy around pair trades?  what do you look for, when do you go long/short?
 
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Kevin_in_GA 4,599 posts msg #129201 - Ignore Kevin_in_GA | 
6/17/2016 7:41:06 AM
  You guys always want to play directional on these events, leaving yourself open to guessing wrong and getting screwed.  I prefer to use mean reversion on pair trades which, while perhaps not giving the same thrill of a big win will minimize the risk of loss.
 
 Example:
 
  	    
 
 This simply plays VIXM versus VXZ - if the ratio of these two ETFs goes outside of the BB(14,2) in either direction you bet long/short on a mean reversion.
 
 How has this particular pair strategy done over the past five years?
 
 https://www.pairtradinglab.com/backtests/V2Pg8zHfkxL8y57c
 
 It returned almost 10% per year (beating the return of the S&P over the same time frame) but had only a 2.2% max drawdown and was profitable 100% of the time - 101 pair trades entered, 101 profitable.
 
 
 
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johnpaulca 12,036 posts msg #129205 - Ignore johnpaulca | 
6/17/2016 9:04:59 AM
  Kevin, this is fantastic, could make my pairs trading a lot easier....thank you!!
 
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pthomas215 1,251 posts msg #129207 - Ignore pthomas215 | 
6/17/2016 9:42:35 AM
  Thank you Kevin. not trying to play directional...just wanted to understand what you were saying.  some of this stuff is new to me.
 
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ferndave 65 posts msg #129256 - Ignore ferndave | 
6/20/2016 3:47:37 PM
  Kevin, for those who don't have an account that allows shorting, can this filter be used with buying XIV instead? Use it like an indicator? 
 
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